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33 and Ceb Discuss Playing Pubs After Winning TI

Rakshak Kathuria
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Neta "33" Shapira and Sébastien "Ceb" Debs discussed their experiences playing pubs after winning TI on OG's Monkey Business podcast.
33 said despite his win at TI11, he continued to have engagements with players where they flamed him in the pubs he recently played.
When 33 asked Ceb how he should approach this, Ceb responded humorously that ranked games will treat them the same regardless of TI victory.

The International (TI) is Dota 2's biggest event and is the ultimate achievement for any player. Winning it brings fame, money, and respect. However, it seems as though being a TI champion will not give you leverage in Dota 2 pubs based on a discussion by Neta "33" Shapira and Sébastien "Ceb" Debs who have both won the event in the past. 33 said despite his win at TI11, he continued to have engagements with players where they flamed him in the pubs he recently played. Ceb also recounted a similar incident concerning Wu "Sneyking" Jingjun and mentioned from his own experience that ranked games are not as awesome as one may think after winning the grandest Dota 2 tournament

33 and Ceb explains how ranked games continue to be similar for them even after winning TI

On OG's Money Business Podcast with Ceb and OG CEO JMR Luna, 33 and coach Kurtis "Aui_2000" Ling asked if anything had changed since their win at TI11.

As 33 explained, initially it was too overwhelming, but once he started playing ranked games again and reconnected with the culture, he didn't feel like he had recently won the championship.

“Honestly, I kind of feel the same. It was a bit hard to believe in the first weeks, I guess but ever since I got back home, I just started playing pubs again and I feel like it’s back to square one. You know you are going to pubs, some guy flames the shit out of you and he doesn’t care that you just won TI two weeks ago.”

On top of that, Ceb mentioned a hilarious incident in which Tundra's captain Sneyking was snubbed by a carry player during laning.

“You have no idea guys. I got into a pub with Sneyking three days ago. He was kindly telling his carry, you know, very low rank carry - please can you do this for me on the lane? And the carry just answered - muted (everybody laughs). This guy just captained the team to win TI and it’s still not enough to get some respect in pubs. So, yeah, I feel you man.”

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33 asked Ceb in response how he should handle this since he had won two TIs, however Ceb simply replied that ranked games would treat you the same no matter what you have accomplished.

“I am giving you the bad news already. If you think the second one is going to do anything better, it’s not going to help. I think usually you get a few days of honeymoon, your first maybe three pubs are nice, you know and then it’s just back to square one basically.”

33 and Tundra will begin their quest for their second TI from the Winter Tour of the Dota Pro Circuit (DPC) 2023 in January. Tundra will play in Division 1.

Meanwhile, Ceb has decided to come out of retirement and is playing with some of his old teammates in a team known as Old G. The team is currently in the closed qualifier and hopes to move up to Division 2.


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As a passionate Dota 2 fan for eight years, Rakshak has indulged himself completely in its esports circuit for the past two years as a professional. In addition to covering major news developments, he takes a keen interest in understanding team strengths and player personalities.

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