Ceb and JerAx with OG at the Epicenter 2019


Ceb Shares His Thoughts on JerAx and Fly

Rakshak Kathuria
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Sébastien "Ceb" Debs, a close friend of Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka since their time at OG, shared his thoughts on a recent livestream about watching JerAx currently play for Evil Geniuses, a rival team to OG.
Even though Ceb disliked Evil Geniuses, he said that his love for JerAx transcended this hatred, and that he would always support JerAx.
Additionally, Ceb shared his thoughts on Tal “Fly” Aizik, whose exit from OG for Evil Geniuses in 2018 initially strained ties between the two teams.

When Jesse "JerAx" Vainikka returned to competitive Dota 2 in November 2021, it was unprecedented because he had not only come out of retirement but had also joined Evil Geniuses, a rival team to OG for a few years now. In a recent Twitch livestream, Sébastien "Ceb" Debs, who has been a close friend of JerAx since their time with OG, shared his thoughts on what it was like watching his close friend play for Evil Geniuses. Ceb expressed a dislike for Evil Geniuses, but his love for JerAx far exceeded this hatred, saying that he would always stand by his side. Additionally, Ceb shared his thoughts on Tal “Fly” Aizik, whose exit from OG for Evil Geniuses in 2018 had initially strained ties between the two teams.

Ceb says he will continue to support JerAx, even though he plays for Evil Geniuses

In a recent Twitch broadcast, Ceb was asked about his opinion on the best position four player in Western Europe. While naming Maroun "GH" Merhej as the best, he then replied to someone who suggested JerAx was the best.

“Somebody wrote JerAx is the best. Someone tell him the bad news. JerAx is playing in NA man. I wish…Yes, of course, I am rooting for JerAx. I love JerAx much more than I hate EG guys. Of course, I hate EG but JerAx is my brother. Of course, I am rooting for him. I will always root for him,” Ceb said.

Some of the players on the OG and Evil Geniuses roster have not been on the best of terms since June 2018. In June 2018, Fly and Gustav "s4" Magnusson unexpectedly left OG for Evil Geniuses, leaving OG scrambling for players as TI8 approached. OG then had Ceb (stand-in), JerAx, and captain Johan "N0tail" Sundstein left on the team.

Ceb says he still cares and respects Fly

The OG saga in 2018 had a great impact on players on both sides. A lot of attention is usually focused on N0tail and Fly, who played together for many years and were close friends before the incident. Ceb also mentioned his thoughts on Fly in his recent livestream.

He said while he had not spoken to Fly again after the incident, it saddened him. Noting that he still respects and cares about him in some way, Ceb said it's hard to take someone out of their lives that easily.

“No, I never spoke to Fly after everything that happened. And to be honest, that saddens me. I had a lot of respect for Fly. I still do in a certain way. Of course, I am still upset at what he did but less and less day by day. But you know, it’s hard to erase a person from your life one minute after which is also why it hurts. Also, I wouldn’t just care? I care about him that’s why it hurts. But I listened to what he said on the syndereN and SUNSfan podcast - I saw the regular clip and I think it’s quite fair what he says. I agree with what he says. One day maybe, who knows?”

Fly had not discussed this incident much publicly over the years but a couple of weeks ago he spoke on the We Say Things podcast with Shannon "SUNSfan" Scotten and Troels Lyngholt "syndereN" Nielsen. At the time, he acknowledged that he left OG in the wrong way and that criticism was valid, however, he believes the way the community has chipped away at him through the years is unfair.

JerAx is currently competing for Evil Geniuses, but both Ceb and Fly are not competing in competitive Dota 2 at this time. Ceb retired after TI10, while Fly departed from Evil Geniuses. Following that, Fly has had brief stints with Talon Esports as its position five/captain and with TSM as its coach.

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As a passionate Dota 2 fan for eight years, Rakshak has indulged himself completely in its esports circuit for the past two years as a professional. In addition to covering major news developments, he takes a keen interest in understanding team strengths and player personalities.

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